# Ordered a SYNC 4 APIM, lets see what happens once it arrives! **URL:** \ **Category:** Discussion\ **Tags:** SYNC4, APIM\ **Created:** [18 November 2021 22:37 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104 "2021-11-18T22:37:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/cyanlabs/32/15113_2.png) [@CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/CyanLabs)\ **Post date:** [18 November 2021 22:37 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/1 "2021-11-18T22:37:45Z")
![image](https://community.cyanlabs.net/uploads/default/original/2X/1/160a3430dc58f4a408bb0e3ef172743dfd9d90e3.png) Hopefully i can retrofit it to my Fiesta MK8 2019 🙂 If any one has any useful information i may need to know, let me know 🙂 also @NaviUpgrade also ordered a NAV variant and as he is US based he will get his first 😢 ---
**Author:** ![SaNdMaN](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/sandman/32/3220_2.png) [@SaNdMaN](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/SaNdMaN)\ **Post date:** [18 November 2021 22:47 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/2 "2021-11-18T22:47:49Z")
Great!. Do you have doubts about interchangability ? ---
**Author:** ![CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/cyanlabs/32/15113_2.png) [@CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/CyanLabs)\ **Post date:** [18 November 2021 22:49 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/3 "2021-11-18T22:49:24Z")
it’s possible, but i’m unsure on the specifics 😃 guess we shall find out lol relevant retrofit videos/information [https://www.youtube.com/c/Nickthecarguy/videos](https://www.youtube.com/c/Nickthecarguy/videos) [https://www.instagram.com/p/CT5hfAjss\_B/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CT5hfAjss_B/) > **[Ford SYNC 4 - Ford Focus 4](https://ffclub.ru/topic/445211/)** > > Новые модели автомобилей Ford будут оснащаться мультимедийной системой Sync 4, которая представляет собой интеллектуального цифрового помощника, активируемого голосом. Sync 4 поддерживает сенсорные дисплеяи диагональю от 8 до 15,5 дюйма, в том числе... [![](https://community.cyanlabs.net/uploads/default/original/2X/4/43bf2fefe87866c3fc4be041b1cc4f4a9cca5b14.jpeg "Ford Fusion SPORT 2017 - Sync 4 Retrofit") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP87SJoIRto) ---
**Author:** ![F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/f150chief/32/14712_2.png) [@F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/F150Chief)\ **Post date:** [18 November 2021 23:19 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/5 "2021-11-18T23:19:50Z")
From a Mach-E, is that Sync 4 or 4A? > [@CyanLabs](#): > > If any one has any useful information i may need to know, let me know See your PM… ---
**Author:** ![bill32399](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/bill32399/32/2724_2.png) [@bill32399](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/bill32399)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 04:44 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/8 "2021-11-19T04:44:53Z")
I am really interested to see how software upgrades work with these. My impression was that they were Wifi only and tied to that VIN. ---
**Author:** ![F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/f150chief/32/14712_2.png) [@F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/F150Chief)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 05:10 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/9 "2021-11-19T05:10:42Z")
> [@bill32399](#): > > My impression was that they were Wifi only and tied to that VIN. Not WIFI. Cellular via TCU. That is the case for Sync 4 software and navigation. You must also have a Navigation subscription for map updates. All external APIM communication has been moved to the TCU via dedicated Ethernet via the new GWM. (Not BT) Although they added wireless CarPlay, wow…however the APIM does still have WIFI connectivity, so maybe in non-TCU equipped vehicles it will still work this way or it would be shared? ---
**Author:** ![JoSS](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/joss/32/10730_2.png) [@JoSS](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/JoSS)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 05:27 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/10 "2021-11-19T05:27:31Z")
I’ve found one for a better price here: [https://www.ebay.com/itm/393643807118?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&\_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649](https://www.ebay.com/itm/393643807118?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649) ---
**Author:** ![F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/f150chief/32/14712_2.png) [@F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/F150Chief)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 05:29 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/11 "2021-11-19T05:29:05Z")
Near Mint! They give these things away? 😄 ---
**Author:** ![bill32399](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/bill32399/32/2724_2.png) [@bill32399](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/bill32399)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 05:33 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/12 "2021-11-19T05:33:05Z")
Ah yes the TCU. Thanks for the correction. There has to be a way to update via USB though. I am sure Ford has that as a backup for various reasons. ---
**Author:** ![F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/f150chief/32/14712_2.png) [@F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/F150Chief)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 05:35 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/13 "2021-11-19T05:35:20Z")
I am sure that some kind of manual method would be available probably via the service departments, but Ford has indicated the USB thing is dead going forward. But, I am sure it will pop up somewhere… ---
**Author:** ![bill32399](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/bill32399/32/2724_2.png) [@bill32399](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/bill32399)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 05:39 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/14 "2021-11-19T05:39:56Z")
Yea not everyone has internet or WiFi available in the world. ---
**Author:** ![avdonr](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/avdonr/32/10009_2.png) [@avdonr](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/avdonr)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 06:46 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/15 "2021-11-19T06:46:43Z")
Updates are deliverable via WiFi if you’ve set up a connection are at near the network when an update is rolled out. I believe the vehicle will prefer WiFi over cellular if it is available as some updates are multiple GB in size. ---
**Author:** ![F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/f150chief/32/14712_2.png) [@F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/F150Chief)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 06:52 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/16 "2021-11-19T06:52:53Z")
Thanks. So update functionality is maintained and possibly shared between WIFI and Cellular. ---
**Author:** ![CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/cyanlabs/32/15113_2.png) [@CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/CyanLabs)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 11:38 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/17 "2021-11-19T11:38:39Z")
True but no shipping to UK so no help for me personally ---
**Author:** ![anthonysmith93](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/anthonysmith93/32/1857_2.png) [@anthonysmith93](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/anthonysmith93)\ **Post date:** [19 November 2021 17:44 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/18 "2021-11-19T17:44:34Z")
I just ordered a nav version as well. I have a 14 Fusion so we’ll see how it goes! ---
**Author:** ![CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/cyanlabs/32/15113_2.png) [@CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/CyanLabs)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2021 10:44 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/19 "2021-11-20T10:44:28Z")
Well it seems US delivery is a lot quicker than expected, should be with me in the UK Tuesday 👌 ![Screenshot_20211120-103912_Chrome](https://community.cyanlabs.net/uploads/default/original/2X/7/74bb1cd6e4bca6fa44012499f2e5c30ad05d821b.png) /s ( I feel like the sarcasm may not portray through this post, check the destination in the image) ---
**Author:** ![F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/f150chief/32/14712_2.png) [@F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/F150Chief)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2021 17:54 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/20 "2021-11-20T17:54:26Z")
That is the UPS broker location for overseas shipments, or it used to be…somewhere in that great big building they have. ---
**Author:** ![CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/cyanlabs/32/15113_2.png) [@CyanLabs](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/CyanLabs)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2021 18:09 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/21 "2021-11-20T18:09:48Z")
Yeah i’m not sure why i did’t think of that earlier, i blame lack of sleep 😆 ---
**Author:** ![F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/f150chief/32/14712_2.png) [@F150Chief](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/F150Chief)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2021 18:10 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/22 "2021-11-20T18:10:39Z")
Same thing for the NAV\_Voices…for me. ---
**Author:** ![Alex16s](https://community.cyanlabs.net/user_avatar/community.cyanlabs.net/alex16s/32/6331_2.png) [@Alex16s](https://community.cyanlabs.net/u/Alex16s)\ **Post date:** [22 November 2021 16:26 UTC](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104/23 "2021-11-22T16:26:23Z")
@CyanLabs this wil not fit! as you have the version with the 12 inch display. the 4 pins in the middel are all for video data and the 2 extra pins on the left are for power. you need the apim of a ford mustang 8’’ display i allready maked this mistake [Next page](https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/ordered-a-sync-4-apim-lets-see-what-happens-once-it-arrives/4104.md?page=2)