Thanks. Just wanted to get a 2nd opinion that this is (probably) the setting Iâm looking for.
No problem. I have not been able to investigate much today, but I will post items as I collect them. See my comments to your post below.emphasized text
Iâll check this out this week and see if I can get mine to work. I looked at the wiring but never could get the right diagram for the 2019. The one you posted is exactly what I thought needed to be done, but I never figured out the correct wiring. It looks like they repurposed connections for the multimedia gateway.
Not sure. It appears the VMEG2 and VMEG1 is a new circuit between the ACM and APIM for this 2019 vs. my 2015. To my recollection, the 2020 Expedition did not have this circuit.
Can you post the settings for the ACM and APIM you changed, please? I think it would be just the SDARS X40, Message Set, Mixed Mode Presets, and tell the APIM there is no CD.
I can capture a picture of the settings on FORscan tomorrow and post. I am still playing around with it so it will or may change. The presets is one big thing I want to play with. My 2020 SD has 5 preset banks for Sirius and FM(Mixed Mode?) but when I apply the SD settings to the Expedition APIM, the FCIM changes the from 3 to 5 but they are unresponsive. Also, most of the voice commands work but voice navigation has a few bugs that needs to be worked out. Again, I am trying to clone my SD to my 2015 if you will.
Also, did you need to re-pin the connectors and if so what pins did you use and where did you get them? Or did you just remove old Sync 2 wires and use those?
When I received the 2020 Expedition ACM the yard just cut the wiring harnesses and left the connectors in the radio. I kept them so I could compare the wiring between vehicles and I wanted the pins. As far as the SYNC 2 wiring, I cut the wires for the audio jack wires connected to the pins and removed them so I could make jumpers utilizing the ACM wires/connectors.
Edit: The set of wires you added are the additional Digital Radio Data Link communications for the APIM and ACM. These do not appear on any 2019 F-150 wiring diagrams that I was able to obtain. I am glad you found this.
It shows on mine.
What is the part number of the ACM you are using?
I have a KL3T-18D832-BH I picked up cheap to experiment with for this, so it would not be a big investment that didnât work. Itâs only missing HD radio but I donât really listen to AM/FM HD Radio much anyways.
KL3T-18D832-CH
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Thanks, I found the pins for the APIM donât fit the ACM. I have the APIM side done but I ran out of time on the ACM side. TomorrowâŚ
I reused the audio jack wiring like you, since Iâll never go back to Sync 2.
Changing the 7D0-04-01 setting to â0â didnât remove the icon⌠Are settings different for the North American market ? I ask because of the reference to âUK Defaultâ.
I found the asbuilt for a late 2019 F-150 without CD player the setting is â0â. This comes from the factory without a CD player in the ACM.
Maybe try this in the ACM, it has a â2â instead of a â0â.
CD & MP3 CD Text Conversion
727-01-01 xxxx xxx* xxxx
0=Internal CD & no conversion
1=Internal CD & Folder, file, and track name replaced by their number
2=External CD or no CD & no conversion
3=External CD or no CD & Folder, file, and track name replaced by their number
8=Internal CD enabled, External CD disabled, conversion disabled
A=Internal CD disabled, External CD enabled, conversion disabled
B=MP3 Text Conversion enabled
Haha, I also found that APIM setting for F-150 models (and those arenât sold officially in the UK, to my knowledge) just to see if it was a global setting. I can try the other setting in the ACM and report back, but otherwise, Iâm not too worried. My wife drives the Fusion but she doesnât have CDs anymore⌠I just wanted a cleaned-up look.
Thanks for the help again
Before I changed mine to 0 the last 4 in bank 3 were 0EFF. When I set it to 0 the last 4 went to 0EFE. I wrote it, re-set it and still had the CD icon. I re-wrote the last 4 to 0EFF, re-set and it was gone.
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Iâll give that a try. I have to ask, how did you think of that option ? I thought the other âbitsâ were supposed to change when you changed the other values, as some sort of âchecksumâ.
Seen it before but not for this. Corrupted asbuilt info. This can be cleared by rewriting the whole asbuilt at once, force write if you have to. Basically, although it was displaying one thing, it really was not set that way. It happens more than you think.
Speaking of rewriting the as-built data, how does it work with downloading the âfactoryâ as-built data when the APIM and car are mis-matched, i.e. 2014 Fusion with a 2020 (Fusion) APIM ? The way I dealt with it was the APIM simply had most of the same options that our car had (heated seats, back-up camera, etc) so those things âworkedâ out of the box.
If you take your car to the dealer and they run diagnostics on it, you might find your factory data looks the same as that on your current APIM. Just be aware of that. Itâs not something to be concerned about.
All the base features are still there and programmed in any case, so that will most likely work fine. Itâs the âotherâ things added like a TCU, NAV, etc., that might have an issue.
I added the wires, had to use pins that were obsolete from Sync 2, so that is done.
APIM 27 TX+ to ACM C240A 5 TX+
APIM 28 TX- to ACM C240A 4 TX-
Wiring checks out end to end. But, the KL3T-18D832-BH I picked up cheap to experiment with for this, might have an issue, as it will not power on, just as you had before (below). It does not come up on the CANBUS at all. Rescanned several times with FORScan. Iâm going to review all the wiring on the connectors using your posted pics.
Do you have a diagram of the ACM to APIM connections for the 2019?
The attached picture is what I had my previous ACM set at(2015 Escape with Sirius and HD) and set my 2019 ACM to. Might want to try it. I also attached my APIM settings.
I am still trying different settings with FORScan to get my multimode presets to work. I can get them to show up on the FDIM(7D0-02-02 xxxx-xx8x-xxx), they beep when touched but nothing happens. When I go to the radio or Sirius icon on the FDIM in settings it will show the option for number of presets but I canât change it. I have tried all of the settings from 0 through F and no luck as of yet.
Look at this for the presets. 727-01-01 xxxx *xxx xxxx
The ACM and APIM need to align.
Thanks for the info.
EDIT: I see 7D0-09-xx is blank, I ended up with below, it all works on my Platinum.
7D0G9G103B28E08FC28
7D0G9G2F03000010104
7D0G9G30000000000E3
7D0G9G4000000002004
Here is the ACM Spreadsheets:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cdLmkqZViVBwkifAroqRmY6cZhY25Xoe?usp=sharing
The NOP refers to how many buttons are on the FCIM. A vehicle with a 4.2" screen will have 1-9 and a 0 for 10 and a vehicle with a 8" screen will have 1-6 hence the NOP of 6 or 10. I wrote in my '20 SD APIM to the '20 Explorer APIM and have been playing with it today for the presets but still nothing.
The 4.2" screen has buttons on the FCIM. (10)
The 8" screen does not, it has buttons only on the screen. (6)
Right?
The settings make sense.
So your presets still do not save or recall? Just beep and nothing?
As far as the rest of the APIM and ACM, does everything work, besides the custom settings youâve done?
What value is here: (Donât know if this matters.)
7D0-08-02 xxxx xx*x xxxx
0=6 Presets Per Page Default.
4=9 Presets Per Page
8=5 Presets Per Page
C=10 Presets Per Page
Sorry, I looked at the pic and it is â0â.
FYI - You have the CD enabled. If you do not have a CD in the unit, use â2â.
CD & MP3 CD Text Conversion
727-01-01 xxxx xxx* xxxx
0=Internal CD & no conversion
1=Internal CD & Folder, file, and track name replaced by their number
2=External CD or no CD & no conversion
3=External CD or no CD & Folder, file, and track name replaced by their number
8=Internal CD enabled, External CD disabled, conversion disabled
A=Internal CD disabled, External CD enabled, conversion disabled
B=MP3 Text Conversion enabled
Yes, 6 and 10 preset buttons.
They donât save or recall, just beep.
Yes, so far all seems to be working fine between the 2. One thing I did notice though was speak to navigation, there is no response but it responds when I ask to call or change the Sirius station.
I tried the 7DO-08-02 for the presets and nothing changed.
Yeah, I see the CD is enabled. I can change it to 2 and see what happens.
It just tells the APIM there is no CD. It wonât help on the presetsâŚ
Go to the NAV menu and NAV settings. You can change the response. One of the things Ford did was streamline the responses and by default they are minimal.
I did notice your APIM has HS4 enabled. I wonder if I need to enable that to get my ACM to turn on? Otherwise, I have the same settings you do for that and it did not work. Iâll try again with the HS4 setting.
Finally had a chance to play with this. It took at least 2 tries of changing the value to â4â and forcing the last 4 digits to 0EFF. It eventually worked. Maybe the APIM wasnât resetting or something (I turn key off, open door, and wait until the screen goes black).
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I found this useful: Look at the gauges on the IPC. When they dip down, if they do, that is when the systems have shut downâŚmost Ford vehicles will do that.