I have a 2016 Ford Expedition EL.
Specs: Sync 3 v3.4, CGEA 1.2, no GWM, DLC (HS1, I-CAN, MS-CAN)
Looking for some help/ brainstorming. I’m attempting something that I’m assuming hasn’t been done before. I want to add a front camera using the camera module from a 2014 F150 Raptor.
P/N: CL3V-19H423-AA or CL3Z-19H405-A
While reading/researching, I found that the 12-14 Raptor doesn’t require any direct LIN or Canbus input but requires involvement from the IPC and BCM (acting as Gateway) in order for the the Camera Module to function properly. I was wondering if there’s a way to successfully retrofit this module into my Expedition ?
P.S: I do have access to all sorts of diagrams and workshop manual
You know I have never looked at the CGEA 1.2 networks on an Expedition. I know the BCM is where they are wired in many models. I will have to look at the wire diagrams as it should work just fine with Forscan changes. Doubt you would have to buy anything if you have a Limited IPC.
I just tried to wire the 14 F150 “IPMB” (in quotation because it has no Canbus, nor Linbus input).
I wired the module up as seen on the F150 Diagram, then changed the APIM asbuilt to enable Front Camera 7D0-01-02 xxxx-xx1x-xxxx … When I shifted the vehicle into Reverse I got the front cam image instead of the rear; when I shifted in Drive, I got nothing at all.
Sounds like you need to use FORScan to do the LIN3 calibration in the BCM to tell the BCM there is a device there and make the change in the BCM asbuilt for the camera function. Keep in mind these are 'park aid cameras" so they will not function above 6 mph in any gear. I don’t think the front camera will come on automatically while parking, as that would require the front parking sensor array. The rear camera should engage automatically in reverse below 6 mph.
That’s a camera switching module. Folks call it an IPMB, but it’s functionally just a hard switch, not a multiplexer.
I would’ve gone for the 2017 Edge/Explorer IPMB because it has an input for a hard button (switch) to trigger the front CAM, unfortunately that IPMB uses HS2-CAN, which the the 15-17 Expedition doesn’t carry. There’s no GWM either, just the DLC. So the only C1MCA/CGEA 1.2 vehicle with a front parking aid camera I could find is the 12-14 Raptor.
That being said, … I’ll try to hook it up again and run the LIN calibration this time and see if it yields different results.
I gave it another shot. Had the Camera Switching Module hooked up as per OEM diagrams. Ran a LIN Calibration with Forscan and got nothing. I ran it twice while sitting in the driveway, got nothing. the 3rd time, I ran it and went for a drive thinking that maybe it needed to be driven for it to register … no luck.
I’m suspecting my lingering DTCs are probably the cause for the LIN calibration being unable to detect to camera switching module. I retrofitted a 2018 Explorer heated steering wheel in my Expedition and since the mod I’ve had a DTC about incompatible switch packs but oddly enough all my switches work.
The asbuilt on the APIM (7DO-01-02: xxxx-xx1x-xxxx) is the only one I can change really.
I don’t think there’s a setting for the IPC or the BCM I can touch for front camera in the 2016 Expedition. At least, none that I’m aware of unless there’s something I’m completely overlooking ?
There may not be one to change. I looked at the database I did not see it as an option. I swear I have seen it though in the easy mode on Forscan. It may just list the BCM because that where the LIN bus originates and forwards the data to the Canbus.
