Hi, I retrofitted a Ford Puma MK2’s digital dash screen into my Ford Fiesta MK8, replacing the analogue cluster.
Upon doing this, my eco mode stopped functioning as a result of my digital dash failing to sync with my ford electrics system.
Is it possible to fix this issue with IDS/FDRS? Or will I have to take other measures?
Thanks in advance
IDS & FDRS aren’t going to be able to do anything with this unless you have a Ford tech get an online session with Ford Engineering so they can unlock engineering mode in IDS/FDRS.
Even then it will be a case of this being a modified vehicle, so I wouldn’t hold your breath.
The problem you’ve got is that the cluster is expecting a different source for the command so it may need a firmware/calibration change or you may need to make a change on multiple modules.
There is a YouTube where the guy refers to having to use the AsBuilt from a later model Puma for this kind of retrofit.
I was thinking the same thing because Ford Engineers wouldn’t be able to touch it since its a retrofit.
Would going to a Ford Specialist be any help?
Is it worth trying to change the firmware with forscan? Even if it is, I have no clue where to start.
Here is a few threads on the site:
Search results for ‘digital dash’ - CyanLabs Official Community
I fixed eco on my MK8 1.0
You need to swap the ABS module but it’s difficult to do in the UK infot very very lucky.
Hi, I also replaced the IPC module on my Fiesta (factory with only ECO/Normal modes) … since then the ECO function is as if it did not exist … my ABS module is the H1BC-2C219-GB (Calibration H1BC-2C219-GB) … is this not really upgradeable?
No experience with that, but for a common sense… The Selectable Drive Modes (SDM) are usually (Escape/Kuga, Focus, non-ST Puma/Focus) driven by a button hardwired to HVAC, and the ABS seems to be the main destination of the button press information (it’s ABS asbuilt where you specify who is the source of the button press, what are the modes etc). For Puma/Focus ST, the information comes from SCCM (since the driving wheel has the button).
IPC is a part of it all, of course, but (by the common sense) should not be the key part. If the Eco mode was there before, no real reason for it not to work, of course unless the IPC is just plainly not compatible.
In comments of the youtube video above, “jullibach8132” mentions they took MK8.5 IPC asbuilt to the one inserted in Fiesta, and then fix some things in Forscan Easy Mode and the Eco worked. Then “leeevans4635” says they needed to upgrade the IPC to MK8.5 to have the performance gauges working (and says about splash screen etc, but only this and the performace gauges are mentioned when referring to the upgrade). And yes, he says about the ABS upgrade, but when talking about the driving wheel SDM button - which is understandable, as ABS needs to be able to accept the “SCCM as the source of SDM information” asbuilt setting (mine in Escape does not).
The bottom line is (if you just want your Eco mode back): make screenshots of your old (original) cluster IPC settings in Forscan (there’s lots of them). Backup your new IPC cluster asbuilt, find a Fiesta MK8.5 IPC asbuilt, write it to the IPC (new cluster). See what is working and what is not. Then use Forscan in the Easy Mode to compare with your “old” screenshots, and try to change things related to something which is not working. Do backups inbetween the changes.
Note that’s just my three cents, I don’t own Fiesta and I did not replace IPC.
ECO mode missing is NOTHING to do with the asbuilt, its purely down to the wrong ABS unit. you need M1BC module (best one to get), the issue is ABS is part of PATS, just changing it will mean car does not start. in UK Ford do not like fixing second hand parts to car so either, pay ford £700 for a new module, or do what i did and find a more appreciative dealer to program the second hand part which i paid £65 for from ebay.
@a7mag3ddon I read that @Djweb74 had ECO mode from the factory and the problem started after replacing IPC. I understand the ABS was not replaced, hence it already handles ECO mode.
Correct his car and my car and many other peoples 1.0 ECO boost already had Eco mode however when upgrading to the digital cluster you will loose Eco mode function.
As you can see from my video above, i fixed it on my car, i restored Eco mode (not only that but added even more modes). the older H1BB model ABS cannot talk to the newer IPC properly and the can strategy is not available, that the reason you loose eco mode.
Happy for someone to come and tell me im wrong and i wasted a year figuring it out and all i needed was an asbuilt (which you can download for free and i already did that ) but as i have proved my theory already im happy 
I even built my own can sniffer to try and sort this and I also added the original cluster at the same time and this did work
But ultimately it was ABS module that’s the cause.
Happy for someone to come and tell me im wrong and i wasted a year figuring it
@a7mag3ddon Oh, that won’t be me, probably 
I was pointing to the comments (under the youtube film) that say about using the asbuilts and having the driving modes back (and performace gauges available), no ABS replacement mentioned, so I reckoned this is worth trying. Having heard from you that you did try - I am sorry it did not work, and it needs to be assumed that it - if maybe possible - is not easy. It may also depend on e.g. model year (while someone had 2019 and mentions the GWM had to be replaced, a person with 2021 did not had to replace GWM). Maybe finding a way to contact these people would be a good start for @Djweb74.
I would like to understand the differences, but we don’t have much information. I also wasted a year or more, just to end up (after endless tries with asbuilts and sniffing the CAN) with conclusion that I likely need to replace my ABS and SCCM to have SDM steering wheel buttons working (or keep the ABS and introduce some CAN device doing translation). Still the whole picture is not clear to me (and the workshops manuals don’t really help, like saying the ABS is source of the information sent through GWM to HVAC, which is obviously the opposite).
Oh, and BTW, in Escape 4G you can replace the cluster without any issues with the ABS: https://www.fordescape.org/threads/how-to-upgrade-replace-your-instrument-cluster.117739/
So both analog and digital communicate with the ABS in the same manner regarding SDM (the person that did that had “worse” ABS of two Escape’s types), so I guess both would work in a Fiesta… or both would not. For what it’s worth, both types of ABS (with and without electronic booster for Stop/Go) do not support any fancy things about the SDM modes, just a plain HVAC-served button placed unfortunately/awkwardly near the handbrake.
I don’t know anything about Escape, only Fiesta.
I also added steering wheel button to mine for SDM, this requires a can strategy upgrade (easy in forscan and 2 minutes of time) only the S button and MODE button are reversed, I.E. S button selects modes and MODE button selects straight to sport mode, with new CAB installed works great.
Maybe escape models have newer ABS technology but pre 2020/19 have older models or by luck of factory the newer one. H1BB does not support communications to IPC for modes that I am sure. This is because the CAN strategy is the dictionary if you like for the language of how to speak to other parts of the car, I’f different the car does not know what to do when it receives that data.
Anyways, I have saved all my notes, and the CAN strategy files which are difficult to come by because forscan no longer has them so if anyone needs them I have them for the ABA M1BB and the SCCM module too.
I just realised that your comments were based on the video of digital dash and performnce guages, because he did it on a MK8 ST car, that model has the correct ABS module for 3 modes so is not affected by the loss of ECO mode, same with mHEV versions of MK8 as well, they keep all modes on new dash, only vehicles like 1.0 ecoboost with 2 modes ( normal and ECO ) do not have the eco function on digital cluster. Look on Forscan forums and also FMods websites i have posted many times trying to fix this over last year until no one could help so fixed myself
Thanks for the clarification - iti is lack of knowledge of Fiesta flavors on my side.