2015 F350 Retrofit Sync2 to Sync3 - confirming whether new APIM has Navigation

15350 · 27 April 2025 14:58

Hi Everyone. First time poster.

I’m upgrading a King Ranch F350 SuperDuty originally with MyFordTouch to Sync3. The MyFordTouch version had Navigation and I believe the new Sync3 module i purchased has it too - it does have the blue antenna plug for the GPS antenna.

The Sync3 APIM and 8" screen I purchased were supposed to be from a 2018-2019 Lincoln MKC. I have a suspicion the APIM may have been from a European vehicle as the Voice Commands are “English UK” language. The APIM currently has Sync3 version 2.3.17109

I tried running the Syn3 Updater Interrogator USB this morning and I’m getting an “Error” stating “The XML file you have selected does not contain the expected output. Syn3 Updater has determined you are on 2.3.17109 and may be using overlays. Syn3 Updater is unable to determine teh configuration of your APIM.”

I’m hoping the forum can help me confirm whether the Sync3 APIM I purchased has Navigation and the best way proceed with upgrading from 2.3.17109 to the latest version 3.4.23188

SYNC Region: NA

Navigation Variant: Nav

Manufacturer Year: Pre MY20

Install Type: Retrofit

Old SYNC Version: 2.3.17109

New SYNC Version: 2.3.17109

Do you have a error message, if so what is it?
not yet updated

Update Method: CyanLabs Syn3 Updater

Syn3 Updater Version: 2.13.3.0 (Stable)

Syn3 Updater Documentation Read: yes

Syn3 Updater Log File

Interrogator Log prior to updating

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SaNdMaN · 27 April 2025 15:41

Hello

I’m pretty sure your APIM JL7T-14G371-BCC is NO-NAV, based on the (conflicting but prevailing) data in our hardware database and the fact it has only 3 packages installed: Sync3 2.x, Gracenotes and Voice.

Make sure Android Auto / Car Play works on your current build, you may need to repace the HUB as well.

F150Chief · 27 April 2025 18:16

These are B-Car APIM’s, non-nav. You can open your xml with a browser on you PC to read it.

system · 29 April 2025 18:16

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