tjmc62
1 July 2022 02:47
1
Hello all. I have a question regarding what APIM’s are NAV & NON-NAV. I read that all NAV APIMS have a C in the last part of the part number. I also heard that if it has a blue connector it is NAV. Unit is for a 2020 Ford F150 XL that did not have NAV. Previous APIM/Screen was 4.2, SYNC3, non nav. I upgraded to the Current APIM is KL3T-14G370-PBH. Looking at purchasing APIM LL3T-14G370-MFH, said to have NAV, but Chinese Maps. Reason for looking for another APIM is that Current does not display any preset details or even set presets. I upgraded the Current APIM to 3.4, latest build, etc. to no resolution. Any input from here, or possibly another resource to ask would be appreciated. TIA.
SYNC Region: North America & Canada
Navigation Variant: No
Install Type: Stock (Original Unit)
Old SYNC Version: 3.4.22110
New SYNC Version: 3.4.21194
Do you have a error message, if so what is it?
Update Method: CyanLabs Syn3 Updater
Syn3 Updater Version: 2.11.30
Syn3 Updater Documentation Read: Yes
Syn3 Updater Log File
CYANLABS - SYN3 UPDATER - V2.11.3.0
Branch: Stable
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (2009)
PREVIOUS CONFIGURATION
Version: 3.4.21265
Region: NA
Navigation: False
Install Mode: Auto-Detect (autoinstall)
Install Mode Overridden: False
My20 Protection Enabled: Auto-Detect
DESTINATION DETAILS
Mode: Directory
Path: E:\\
AUTOINSTALL.LST
; CyanLabs Syn3Updater 2.11.3.0 Stable - Autoinstall Mode - Sync 3.4.22110 NA
[SYNCGen3.0_ALL_PRODUCT]
Item1 = GRACENOTES - 4U5T-14G423-CC_1615429225000.TAR.GZ
Open1 = SyncMyRide\4U5T-14G423-CC_1615429225000.TAR.GZ
Item2 = APPS - 5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
Open2 = SyncMyRide\5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
Item3 = VOICE - 5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
Open3 = SyncMyRide\5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
Options = AutoInstall
FILES (3)
4U5T-14G423-CC_1615429225000.TAR.GZ (564.2MB)
5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ (869.8MB)
5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ (385.5MB)
LOG
[6/27/2022 8:02:45 PM] Selected Region: NA - Release: Sync 3.4.22110 - Map Version: Non Nav APIM
[6/27/2022 8:02:45 PM] Install Mode: Auto-Detect (autoinstall) Forced: False
[6/27/2022 8:02:45 PM] MY20 Protection: Auto-Detect
[6/27/2022 8:02:45 PM] Clearing Selected Folder
[6/27/2022 8:02:45 PM] Checking Existing File: 4U5T-14G423-CC_1615429225000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:02:50 PM] Validated: 4U5T-14G423-CC_1615429225000.TAR.GZ (Skipping Download)
[6/27/2022 8:02:50 PM] Checking Existing File: 5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:02:50 PM] Downloading: 5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:03:34 PM] Validating: 5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:03:38 PM] Downloaded: 5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:03:38 PM] Checking Existing File: 5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:03:38 PM] Downloading: 5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:04:08 PM] Validating: 5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:04:09 PM] Downloaded: 5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:04:09 PM] Preparing selected directory (No USB Drive Selected)
[6/27/2022 8:04:09 PM] Checking Existing File: 4U5T-14G423-CC_1615429225000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:04:09 PM] Copying: 4U5T-14G423-CC_1615429225000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:04:45 PM] Validating: 4U5T-14G423-CC_1615429225000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:04:50 PM] Copied: 4U5T-14G423-CC_1615429225000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:04:50 PM] Checking Existing File: 5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:04:50 PM] Copying: 5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:05:57 PM] Validating: 5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:06:05 PM] Copied: 5U5T-14G381-EZ_1652218180000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:06:05 PM] Checking Existing File: 5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:06:05 PM] Copying: 5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:06:35 PM] Validating: 5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:06:39 PM] Copied: 5U5T-14G391-CR_1644007976000.TAR.GZ
[6/27/2022 8:06:39 PM] Generating Autoinstall.lst
[6/27/2022 8:06:39 PM] ALL FILES DOWNLOADED AND COPIED TO THE SELECTED FOLDER SUCCESSFULLY!
See this database in the Ford Hub here on the site.SYNC 3 - CyanLabs
tjmc62:
APIM LL3T-14G370-MFH
This is a 2020 APIM which cannot be reformatted. Doing so will brick the unit. You cannot change the maps.
Your current KL3T-14G370-PBH APIM (NON-NAV) probably just needs to have asbuilt adjustments to the APIM and ACM units. Upgrading from the 4" Sync to the 8" Sync hardware is not as simple as dumping the old asbuilt into the newer 8" unit. (Some folks will tell you that works…)
If you run the APIM Interrogator and create a log file I would be happy to review it.
tjmc62
1 July 2022 18:37
3
Chief,
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And here is to hoping.
Tom
Se your messages…I need the VIN.
Based on the VIN and the original configuration, your present APIM asbuilt has several errors which will disable some functionality, like the FordPass modem, etc.
Since you do not have NAV, load the original asbuilt attached here, perform a master reset of the APIM, and test for functionality.
7D0-01-01
022A
0C06
0017
7D0-01-02
1028
0404
809A
7D0-02-01
5553
0103
C046
7D0-02-02
0241
9000
00AE
7D0-02-03
4005
21
7D0-03-01
0000
0101
00DD
7D0-04-01
0000
1403
0E01
7D0-04-02
0000
DD
7D0-05-01
1A68
1A68
2F10
7D0-05-02
A886
7D0-06-01
704E
7D0-07-01
3E00
3300
0050
7D0-07-02
0000
029A
007C
7D0-07-03
0056
5687
0014
7D0-07-04
C8AA
7D0-08-01
0020
0000
0000
7D0-08-02
0000
0700
10F8
7D0-09-01
0000
0000
00E1
7D0-09-02
0000
0000
00E2
7D0-09-03
0000
0000
00E3
7D0-09-04
0000
0000
2004
tjmc62
2 July 2022 03:16
8
OK, so I am VERY new to this. Will I need Forscan, and the adapter to perform this? I have neither
I am also going to get the correct USB/USB-C Hub so I can use CarPlay. Will this impact anything?
AND Thank you. AGAIN.
The hub will not affect anything, however, do not expect fast charging rates as the Ford hubs do not support fast charging.
tjmc62
2 July 2022 04:08
11
Thank you. I just ordered the OBDLink EX FORScan OBD Adapter and DL FORScan. Will follow the tutorials. This should be fun. I DL the original asbuilt from the Ford site so I have a clean starting point. I assume the asbuilt is different than the SYNC# 3.4 upgrade as well, correct. I guess the order would be install correct asbuilt, then correcty with values supplied, then upgrade back to 3.4?
The asbuilt is not the Sync software, it is like the settings for the OS. You do not need to change the Sync 3.4 software.
There are 3 separate “layers” to the Sync OS:
What you will do is load the original asbuilt data into the APIM to see if the features work properly. With the current unit installed in the vehicle, there are several errors that are turning off features available in the original asbuilt data. Restoring the original data will probably fix the issues.
F150Chief
5 July 2022 04:19
13
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