Sync 3.4 troubleshooting

Hey guys, I updated to Sync 3.4.20021 a couple years ago and it has been relatively trouble free up untill about 2-3 months ago.

I started having issues where sync would ask me every time I start the car whether I want to turn on automatic updates, turn on error reporting etc etc. No matter what I chose, it would do it again after a restart. As of this week, the issue seems to have gotten worse where it now won’t even remember my connected bluetooth phone, so I need to re-pair every time.

I tried disconnecting the battery for an extended period which did nothing and I tried a master reset but that will just freeze up the unit and do nothing.

So I’m now wanting to just do a fresh reinstall. I downloaded Syn3 updater but have some questions.

Since it’s been so long, I don’t remember my original version, not sure how relevant that is, but which install method would you guys suggest? My first instinct was the reformat method, but I don’t know if maybe leaving it on auto would be safer? My unit has Nav but I’m actually located in a part of the world where maps are not available for sync (as far as i know) so I don’t really need maps.

What do you guys suggest?


SYNC Region: NA

Navigation Variant: Nav

Manufacturer Year: Pre MY20

Install Type: OEM

Old SYNC Version: 3.4.20021

New SYNC Version: 3.4.20021

Do you have a error message, if so what is it?
no

Update Method: CyanLabs Manual Method

You can update to the latest sync3 version 3.4.23188 through Cyanlabs using 3.4.20021 as your current version if you wish but the first thing to do is disable wifi on sync unless you need it for apps or whatever.

You are probably getting continuous turn on auto update requests because Ford is trying to send you their latest sync updates by wifi but if you used Cyanlabs in the past to download 3.4.20021 you are now out of the Ford ‘fold’.

On the other hand if you got your last update from Ford you may have turned off auto updates at some stage so you can just go ahead with the Syn3Updater anyway leaving Ford auto updates off.

Are you sure that’s your current version?.

Based on what you are describing, you should review this guide → APIM Sync Settings Not Saving, VER_ERR08 Errors, Cannot Perform Master Reset or Upgrades/Updates (Solved)

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My previous update was not using cyan labs if im not mistaken. I think it was another method that was posted over on f150 forums. But its been so long that I dont really remember

Im sure of the versions. Ill take a look at your link


You are giving contradictory information then:

This is why I asked you to double check the version, since your current version is not listed in Syn3updater.

Go through the guide nonetheless, since the symptoms are similar but the version is way off… Share the xml file if the unit produces one…

So I checked your link, and those symptoms sound VERY similar to what I am experiencing.

I ran the APIM interrogator and it looks like my RWDATA partition is out of memory like that article predicted. So I’m now going to run the RWdate cleaner tool to see if that helps.

That article also mentions that I can do a reformat by downgrading first and then upgrading to the latest version. May also try that

Well, that is odd… I mean, the RWDATA partition being full bug/issue was attributed to mainly 2 builds 2-3 years newer than yours…

Are you a heavy Car Play user?.
Once you solve the issue, the unit should be back to normal.

I’m not completely sure the RWDATA tool will run though, since that tool was designed by Ford to address the issue and it may not run on your current build (it checks for the build)… but you can always try, I may be misremembering. And if it does not work, you can try the other methods…

Yes you are correct, I don’t think the method I used was not an option in the dropdown list.

This was the method I used:

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/upgrade-sync-3-v3-0-v3-4-instructions-458828/

It was written by the user Airborn Ape

I went ahead and tried the RWdata clearing tool, it did it’s thing, but it didnt seem to fix the problem. At this point I’m just leaning towards doing a format and starting fresh.

What would you suggest?

I have uploaded my xml file

Sync_VXB1037E_1FTEW1CP4KKC09509.xml (11.0 KB)

No, I rarely use carplay.

The RWdata tool seemed to run, but it didn’t make a difference, so maybe it didn’t do anything.

One thing I CAN add to this is that ever since I updated to sync 3.4 even since the beginning, I always had one weird issue where when I turn off my ignition, or if I just turn on the radio without turning on the truck, I always noticed that my clock was way off. Even if I set the time correctly, it did not seem to save it, but as soon as I turn the ignition on, the sync will reload and it will show the right time.

I always had the impression that somehow, I seemed to have 2 instances of sync running on top of each other, one of which works fine, but the other was buggy. And it now seems that the buggy version has taken over.

All these years I always thought it was strange but I ignored it since the issues it caused were minor, but I somehow think the issues may be related.

Is this the original APIM or is it a 4" to 8" upgrade?

Try performing a master reset, that will erase everything and should revert the unit back to stock. This includes cleaning the RWDATA partition, of course.

If Master Reset does not complete or freezes, you need to continue trying the other methods in the guide to eventually reformat the unit.

Reformatting it will wipe everything out and reinstall all packages again.

If the issue is software driven, master reset and/or reformatting the unit should fix that.

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yea, i’ve tried a master reset various times, always freezes.

I’ll go ahead and do a reformat as indicated in your guide and report back

Just tried a downgrade and got a VER_ERR08

This ties back into the article you posted since I don’t have any temp storage available.

Reading further into it for any solutions.

Any suggestions?

Run the RWData cleaner in the Syn3 Updater…

I already did. It showed installation complete on my screen, but still got the error when trying to downgrade

All known recovery methods are documented in the guide. If none of those work, you may need to replace the unit in the near future.

Following as I have the identical issues.

Yea i just happen to be traveling this week and wont be back untill eaely august so unfortunately its going to have to wait untill im back.

Im gonna try removing gracenotes to see if that will help.

If my rwdata is full, would it be safe to assume that a straight upgrade to the latest version would possibly also fail?

Regarding replacing the unit, yea im on the verge of just ordering an autotecpro tesla style screen at this point.